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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 28, 2011 6:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

Or He's Gone.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 28, 2011 7:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

Or have you ever even played Box of Rain for a non-Deadhead friend and had them not at least grudgingly admit it's a pretty song?

Or Ripple? Does anyone ever complain Ripple is cheesy, or sentimental, or goes on too long?

Other than complaints that particular versions are marred by FUBAR lyrics, etc., I don't think anyone says a word against these songs.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 28, 2011 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

Unfortunately, I & D have completely burned out our friends and family who just don't get it or they simply can't abide another single note.
I was thinking here on the forum, nary a bad word about Box, He's Gone, Ripple, ect. I have tried every song for conversion purposes, as many/all of us have. Keep it short and to the point hasn't worked. My grandmother (RIP) did waltz w/ me to Mexicali Blues once b/c of it's polka nature, and that was her fav style of music. D's mom likes Mama Tried b/c of Merle and the not so hidden message to her daughter. But that is it.
Oh yeah, my brother told me once that Ripple and Attics sucked. He had just broken up w/ a girl he really liked and I thought there was an opening. Silly me.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 28, 2011 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

You're right about that. I'm probably the biggest complainer I know of Ripple (my dad loves the tune). I just get frustrated by DSO ending every concert I see with it. I mean give me johnny b goode any day to close it out.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 28, 2011 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

"FUBAR"? Ye of military associations methinks--laughed out loud, almost, thinking of you saying this on a regular basis. At work? Just around the kids?

;)

I will say that having used BoR at wakes, the slower, very sentimental version by Robert his-self Hunter, solo, in which the lyrics are easily understood by "non heads", is better in such settings, as the DEAD version, great as it is, is a bit too upbeat (to be played toward the end, when everyone is well into the drinking/celebratory phase rather than the somber opening of said event).

That's as far as I go vis-a-vis a "complaint" about BoR.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 28, 2011 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

FUBAR is useful, as a way of cursing without offending the elders, or as a way of escalating from "SNAFU." Which I guess is also technically a curse.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 28, 2011 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

I was thinking that too. Ripple is so special, and yet hardly ever played. I just checked Deadlists, and they were all in 70, 71 and 80, except for a few odball ones in 81 and 88.

And Box of Rain ... heck, I can't even recall anyone criticizing Phil's singing on that!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Sep 28, 2011 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Terrapin and Fire and ... ?

I love Box of Rain as a song, but there are very few great performances of that song. The studio version is pure bliss, but there are other songs better suited to Phil's live vocal stylings -- like Tom Thumb's, for example.